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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondnot007 View Post
    I agree, but if i do not have to put any money in then what would the point be? I mean it seems to good to be true, but with no initial investment what would be the point if it was a scam or bs?

    thanks

    I guess i am trying to gain insight into this. i have heard of bond scams, but i hold the bonds so i am not buying anything.

    also is there really a UN trading program set up for this?
    My advice:turn bond into cash.Best.

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    They say there is nothing up front, but I have heard that they surprise you with some small admin fees.... Sounds fishy to me...

    Has anyone heard anyone being successful? I have found a couple of things that make me question it's credibility. One being one of the folks involved is not exactly an "elite"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurntToast View Post
    They say there is nothing up front, but I have heard that they surprise you with some small admin fees.... Sounds fishy to me...

    Has anyone heard anyone being successful? I have found a couple of things that make me question it's credibility. One being one of the folks involved is not exactly an "elite"...
    There is no admin fee in PPP.Best.
    Last edited by sulevss; 12-22-2010 at 11:32 PM.

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    I know nothing of investing. I am being offered a job by a man who claims to be one of two overseers for a new UN Trading Platform. He claims the platform will pay out billions every two weeks and I will work for him in the company he will run using this money. I'm not to tell anyone of his source of income.

    I need a job. I'm currently on unemployment. He is not asking me for any money or even to sign anything. I appear to be in a position of pure benefit, but I don't believe him and can't figure out the angle or what the angle will be.

    He says the UN is also currently acquiring large quantities of gold to strengthen a gold standard and issue their own currency to try and help stabilize the world economy. he stands to make 600 million commission on the gold tranfer - something like 4 million ounces...

    When I remark how much good could be done with the supposed billions he will be receiving every two weeks, he says, yes some of it will be used for humanitarian aid. The number stagger me and when I remark on the financial precariousness of the current global economy, he says that it is of no consequence to the super rich and that is who uses the trading platforms.

    I have no money, the only thing I can figure is that he is telling the truth and I'm a fool for not trusting him, or he's lying and I'm being set up as some pawn, and probably still a fool.

    All the UN stuff sounds scammy to me. Anyone have any insight that will keep me out of trouble?

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    Mr. Faun,

    The person you're describing sounds delusional and perhaps needs to include someone to help him justify it. The UN program is, as far as anyone can tell, pure broker mythology.

    You sound like a reasonable man with good instincts. I would trust them, and go about your business as if none of this ever happened.

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    So the more I learned about this deal the funnier it got. Has anyone heard if anyone ever closed anything with these guys?

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    investigate x 1000

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    NO -- Doesn't exist. Stay away.

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    in PPP bonds are real tough to use, especially because most banks dont want to loan against anything. Really, it all depends on what types of bonds they are.. Venezuelan =NO! Anything besides the best credit backing=NO. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by agrs View Post
    Hi everyone. I need to know if somebody here knows something and/or have a professional opinion about the following info I have received today from a broker :

    The UN Sovereign Trading Platform is THE ONLY ONE that can trade all the exotic bearer
    Bonds like all Brasil – Petrobras / Eletrobras / LTNs – Venezuela Bonds - Mexicanbonds –
    German Historic Bonds – Chinese Historic Bonds – Russian Bonds and so on , regardless of what being said out there otherwise. That being said, they are offering to do this in an effort of cleaning the world banking systems.

    They offer this :
    · The bonds will be taken into trade at their full face value + coupon value of the bonds.
    Any bearer bond can be submitted to the platform, not just the Mexican bonds. (So, that
    includes Venezuelan bonds, Chinese bonds, German bonds, Greek bonds, Brazilian
    bonds, etc.)
    · The bonds will be leveraged 20 times, roll over 40 times and payable every 2 weeks for
    10 years.
    · The profit will be paid to the bond holders at 20%, the UN keeps 80% for humanitarian
    projects and repatriate countries for losses incurred with these instruments.
    · The bond holder nets 15%, the 5% will be divided equally among 3 groups. USA Group,
    UK Group, and your group. This will be transparent via IMFPA later

    We need a few things :
    · Color passport copy of the bond holder or signatory
    · Color copies of the SKRs or Depository Receipts or an attorney attestation to the bonds
    existent.
    · CIS
    · Picture or scan of the front and back of one of each bond type. IF the holder have more
    than one series or different type of bonds, then front and back of each type.
    · Serial or folio numbers of the bonds
    · Corp resolution or power of atty. signed and notarized if the bonds submitted in a
    company's name.
    · This point comes later : Signed IMFPA by the bond holder or signatory. The bond
    holder prints and signs his name to the right of BOND HOLDER'S NAME in the middle
    of the IMFPA. The bond holder must notarize the IMFPA.

    Some additional Info :
    A) Current Value (what they are worth today) OF 100M MINIMUM Not per bond, but total
    submission.
    B) ALL YEARS ARE OK.
    C) ONCE Current VALUE IS PAID OWNERSHIP OF BONDS TRANSFERS TO UN.
    Trade continues to pay client and brokers for the full 10 years.
    D) TRADE LASTS 10 YEARS BY CONTRACT.

    Any help will be very appreciate.

    Thanks in advance and best regards,

    agrs

    Stay away from any kind of investment opportunity utilizing these words "ppp", "trade programs" "platforms" in addition, if they reference government affiliation, this is total nonsence.

    I actually know a securities broker who was lured by a fake "investor" who turned out to be a FEDERAL agent and took out this lady with a Felony Charge for Solicitation and wire fraud even though she didn't do anything except provide an opportunity. Some of you in this business my or may not know this lady out of NY. Good friend but you all need to be very careful.

    Many of you have skype names, e-mail addressess and alias company names with these names that are inducing solicitation with the word "programs" and "ppp" -- Many of you are just huge bill boards/signs that say "HEY LOOK AT ME, I"M SOLICITING, I DON't HAVE A LICENSE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM DOING, JUST CIRCULATING SOME INFORMATION AND DOCUMENTS BASED ON NO ACTUAL PROOF THAT WHAT I AM TELLING YOU IS REAL" and 80-90% of people on this board are in this category. The likley hood of you all getting in trouble is slim as you all pose no threat but if you all KNOW you have the REAL deal then you really need to keep it to yourself and slowly find a real client and not succumb to desperatism.


 

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