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    HSBC and JP Morgan accused of manipulating silver market - Telegraph

    I just put this link here to show, that to be safe You must understand the world finance too.
    Becouse somebody told You there is no secret in PPP.Is,nt there?
    Best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisinggoose View Post
    Could someone please recommend an attorney who could help with PPP contracts, etc., that is based in London.

    Thank you,
    send me an email at kim044@sympatico.ca on this question.

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    Genuine programs are without risk to the investor what so ever, as the credit line raised against the capital is underwritten by the trading group. The (Investor) therefore is involved for the purpose of audit only, as it is by law that financial institutions are not allowed to participate and therefore have to find a Private entity either a private person or company. At no time are the investor’s or better called Audit Fund Provider’s funds used for the trade.
    The procedures to enter are simple and fairly standard; however the Audit Fund Provider will have to adhere to strict compliance and non-disclosure. Many claim to be next to traders, this is 99.99% not the case. Traders are very busy people and have no time to sit down and have a chat. Therefore they have a structure in place where the first contact is with a compliance officer who will go through the submission papers and sort out the good from the nonsense.

    THIS IS NOT MY POST.But it shows pretty much how the PPP works.But not 100%.And there is some misleading too.But still... You will better understand the things beside program and how the trader works. Best.
    Last edited by sulevss; 11-22-2010 at 04:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sulevss View Post
    Genuine programs are without risk to the investor what so ever, as the credit line raised against the capital is underwritten by the trading group. The (Investor) therefore is involved for the purpose of audit only, as it is by law that financial institutions are not allowed to participate and therefore have to find a Private entity either a private person or company. At no time are the investor’s or better called Audit Fund Provider’s funds used for the trade.
    The procedures to enter are simple and fairly standard; however the Audit Fund Provider will have to adhere to strict compliance and non-disclosure. Many claim to be next to traders, this is 99.99% not the case. Traders are very busy people and have no time to sit down and have a chat. Therefore they have a structure in place where the first contact is with a compliance officer who will go through the submission papers and sort out the good from the nonsense.

    THIS IS NOT MY POST.But it shows pretty much how the PPP works.But not 100%.And there is some misleading too.But still... You will better understand the things beside program and how the trader works. Best.
    I think the whole 24/7 watching the charts and making sales after sales after sales, and you build upon your insite toward the market and how much you really pay attention and make the right decisions..

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    Quote Originally Posted by candice batdorff View Post
    I think the whole 24/7 watching the charts and making sales after sales after sales, and you build upon your insite toward the market and how much you really pay attention and make the right decisions..
    That is how somebody mislead people.They took my post about PPP and add they 24/7 charts about sales.BUT NOT A WORD THAT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PPP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sulevss View Post
    I can not stop to think of people who lost their money to a scam.There is very simple but very effective way to avoid this.

    1)Talk to the person face to face.
    2)See his family,office,home.
    3)If he is a crook-he has been so before.Look around in internet.
    4)They change on a regular base a telephone,address,office,even names.
    5)THERE IS NO UPFRONT FEE! NEVER! IF ANY FEE AT ALL!
    6)Money stays on Your account.Only You have a control over it.
    7)Always put Your signature on a contract in a bank with bank officers to assist You.
    8)If anybody offers You his service for fee to put Your in PPP-run! PPP never offer any services! He puts You direct to the trader and do not ask money.
    9)If You go to Your bank and ask for PPP with 10%/month returns with no risk,they will tell You that this is not real.Officialy.So there can not be any license,acts(patriotic or not),regulations for PPP,that does not exist.Officialy.

    Maybe it seems to be a little of trouble but in this way You will lose only You time,not money.
    This is if You want to work in PPP.About other businesses I am not confident to give You an advice.
    And good luck!

    P.S.Anti-Fraud International
    Most of it was posted nearly a year ago.Nothing much since than has changed.Maybe some new aspects:PPP use ONLY cash on deposit.No instruments.As usually.Min.still is $1M.Not less.No upfront fee.No escrow or other BS.Remember:there is no leverage in PPP.Never.Always 1:1.About JV in PPP look other my thread:10% in PPP with JV.
    Anyway,if there is something suspicious,we are here to give some advice.Ask first,move later.No rush! Best and be safe.


    http://www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/fraud
    Last edited by sulevss; 03-12-2012 at 06:35 AM. Reason: update

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    Please see a recent complaint that our group received concerning Garrison Securities SA fraudulent and scam based business model;

    “Hello,

    Between 2008 and 2010, our firm attempted to transact with Garrison. Many of the complaints you lodged were experienced by members of our team(s). However, we never provided funds to Garrison or any of its members.

    Our first introduction was to a Mr. Martin Pitt. Mr. Pitt left Garrison in the summer of 2009. Hence, I traveled to London to meet with both Mssr. Pitt and Dan Terry separately and individually. Mr. Pitt then running his own firm asked for an 'upfront fee' to transact a Bank Guarantee. We did not accept the offer due to our policy of NOT paying upfront fees for a potential non-transaction. Knowing that Mr. Terry would also ask for a fee we declined a June 2009 meeting in France with both Mr. Terry and Mr. Nick Fox.

    Hope this helps.”

    The author also followed up with this information as well;

    “Hello,

    However, a Garrison representative did perhaps 'represent' to our firm at one time, that since Garrison was 'registered' as a corporation in Switzerland that they indeed were 'regulated'. It is unclear to us whether the statement was one of misrepresentation or naivete. Certainly, as we found at the time, Garrison was not regulated.

    The firm 'Garrison Securities' appears to have been 'counseled' by Ocra Worldwide (www.ocra.com), Lord St. John of Bletso, Chairman. However, the specific Ocra Switzerland office, Paolo Corbi, Director (http://www.ocra.com/offices/Switzerland.asp), handled Garrison's paperwork and processing in 2007-2008, I believe.

    A June '09 meeting in Mayfair with a former Dresdner Kleinwort investment banker revealed to us that Lord St. John might have been involved in, and might have been investigated for, some shady
    dealings.

    You may use our firm's experience(s)."

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    There are some new changes in PPP,for better and secure business.Because banks and traders are working too for this direction.But this info only by PM(personal message).And there is no MT760,MT799,BG in PPP.
    Beware! Fraud in PPP has become so sofisticated,that I can not point out every detail.For different reasons.Sorry.Best.
    P.S. Becouse we have now a licence to work only in EU,I can not give You any advice about PPP outside. Maybe in general only.
    Last edited by sulevss; 08-26-2011 at 03:06 PM. Reason: grammar

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    Red flag:FED licenced program,US treasury,anything to do with FED,UN,Goverment and so on.Becouse PPP is private and has usual rules and permissions for business in financial world.Nothing special. Our trader can work only in EU.If You see offer with trader working all over the world-it is not real!Best and be safe.
    Last edited by sulevss; 06-02-2011 at 02:59 AM. Reason: update

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    Investors will only provide a very limited power of attorney to the trade bank that the trade group will be able to trade their money for only financial instrument buy and sell purposes under the control of trade bank. No ANY OTHER RIGHTS will be given. Trade bank will provide the ultimate protection and safe guard for investor’s funds.

    IF YOU WILL SEE SUCH A SENTENCE IN AN OFFER-BE VERY CAREFULY!
    YOU CAN LOSE YOUR MONEY!


 

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